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John THRALE

Male - 1736

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  • Name John THRALE 
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    Gender Male 
    Property 1699  Cell Barnes, Saint Peters, St Albans, Hertfordshire, England Find all individuals with events at this location  [1, 2
    Sir Samuel Grimston of Gorhambury leased to William the messuage of Cellbarnes and the land of about 120 acres for 21 years at £60 a year, a condition of the lease being that timber trees were excepted, and that the usual course of husbandry should be followed. Upon Sir Samuel's death, the estate passed to Viscount Grimston and William's lease with Grimston's consent was passed to brother John Thrale. In 1699, Sir Samuel Grimston of Gorhambury leased to William the messuage of Cellbarnes and land of about 120 acres for 21 years at £60 a year, a condition of the lease included that timber trees were excepted and that the usual course of husbandry should be followed. After Sir Samuel's death on 1 October 1700, the estate passed to Viscount Grimston and William's lease with Grimston's consent was passed to brother John Thrale. This was a happy arrangement for two years.

    In 1717, the other brother Thomas said he would like to take over the lease. John disagreed unless Thomas undertook to provide for William. Thomas agreed to 2 shillings and 6 pence per week. Upon the lease being transferred to Thomas, the latter kept William for three months only and upon John's demands to restore the lease, he refused.

    John further complained that Thomas Thrale, William Thrale and Thomas's son Richard had ruined the land by bad husbandry and ignored the covenants, making son liable to a penalty of £800 to Viscount Crimston. The cropping clauses of the lease are very detailed. The first year should be for fallow or turnips: the second year for wheat, rye or barley: the third year for Lent corn, and the tenant should not soe any barley but upon a fallow or tilth. The Crofty Close and the Pightle should for three years be left for pasture. Should this land be ploughed or cross-cropped, William Thrale could be liable to forty shillings for every acre broken up by ploughing. No substances such as straw, stover, soil, compost or dung should be carried away from the property. John Thrale accused his brother Thomas and nephew Richard Thrale of not only breaking these conditions but also of cutting up and ruining the hedges and fences. They had ploughed and sowed every year against all conditions. 
    Will 17 Apr 1732  Cell Barnes, Saint Peters, St Albans, Hertfordshire, England Find all individuals with events at this location  [3
    ABSTRACT OF THE WILL OF JOHN THRALE OF CELL-BARNES IN THE PARISH OF ST. PETERS. CO. HARTFORD. husbandman.

    DATED. 17 April 1732. - PROVED. 10 May 1736. (Archd. St. Albans reg. 1718-43. fo. 303.)


    I give to my niece Anna Thrale daughter of my brother William Thrale deceased £20 to be paid unto her by my Executrix within six months of my decease and that the Acquitance of my said niece though under the age of 21 shall be taken by my executrix as a good discharge for the said legacy.

    I give to my said neice two bedsteads and the best bed thereon and all the furniture belonging to such bedstead standing in the further chamber at Cell-Barnes, also two pair of best sheets six of my best napkins and one of my best table cloths.

    All the rest and residue of my goods chattels etc. and all my other personal estate whatsoever to my loving niece Anna Smith (daughter of my brother Ralph Thrale deceased) and wife of Mr. Smith of Kingsbury near St. Albans in the county of Hertford.

    My niece Anna Smith sole executrix.
    Witnesses. Ann Keen. H. Gregory.
    Proved 10 May 1736 by Anna Smith executrix.
    Archd. St. Albans. Reg. 1718-1743. fo.303. 
    Death Between 1736 and 10 May 1736  [4
    Probate 10 May 1736 
    Source: Archdeaconry of St. Albans 
    Person ID I285  UK Thrale family | Fairfolds and Hammonds Thrale branch, Marshalswick Thrale branch
    Last Modified 22 Jul 2025 

    Father Richard THRALE   d. From Dec 1689 to 10 Jan 1690 
    Mother Susan THRALE   d. 1675 
    Marriage 30 Apr 1650  Saint Mary's, Watford, Hertfordshire, England Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Family ID F37  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

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    Link to Google MapsProperty - Sir Samuel Grimston of Gorhambury leased to William the messuage of Cellbarnes and the land of about 120 acres for 21 years at £60 a year, a condition of the lease being that timber trees were excepted, and that the usual course of husbandry should be followed. Upon Sir Samuel's death, the estate passed to Viscount Grimston and William's lease with Grimston's consent was passed to brother John Thrale. In 1699, Sir Samuel Grimston of Gorhambury leased to William the messuage of Cellbarnes and land of about 120 acres for 21 years at £60 a year, a condition of the lease included that timber trees were excepted and that the usual course of husbandry should be followed. After Sir Samuel's death on 1 October 1700, the estate passed to Viscount Grimston and William's lease with Grimston's consent was passed to brother John Thrale. This was a happy arrangement for two years. In 1717, the other brother Thomas said he would like to take over the lease. John disagreed unless Thomas undertook to provide for William. Thomas agreed to 2 shillings and 6 pence per week. Upon the lease being transferred to Thomas, the latter kept William for three months only and upon John's demands to restore the lease, he refused. John further complained that Thomas Thrale, William Thrale and Thomas's son Richard had ruined the land by bad husbandry and ignored the covenants, making son liable to a penalty of £800 to Viscount Crimston. The cropping clauses of the lease are very detailed. The first year should be for fallow or turnips: the second year for wheat, rye or barley: the third year for Lent corn, and the tenant should not soe any barley but upon a fallow or tilth. The Crofty Close and the Pightle should for three years be left for pasture. Should this land be ploughed or cross-cropped, William Thrale could be liable to forty shillings for every acre broken up by ploughing. No substances such as straw, stover, soil, compost or dung should be carried away from the property. John Thrale accused his brother Thomas and nephew Richard Thrale of not only breaking these conditions but also of cutting up and ruining the hedges and fences. They had ploughed and sowed every year against all conditions. - 1699 - Cell Barnes, Saint Peters, St Albans, Hertfordshire, England Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsWill - ABSTRACT OF THE WILL OF JOHN THRALE OF CELL-BARNES IN THE PARISH OF ST. PETERS. CO. HARTFORD. husbandman.

    DATED. 17 April 1732. - PROVED. 10 May 1736. (Archd. St. Albans reg. 1718-43. fo. 303.)


    I give to my niece Anna Thrale daughter of my brother William Thrale deceased £20 to be paid unto her by my Executrix within six months of my decease and that the Acquitance of my said niece though under the age of 21 shall be taken by my executrix as a good discharge for the said legacy.

    I give to my said neice two bedsteads and the best bed thereon and all the furniture belonging to such bedstead standing in the further chamber at Cell-Barnes, also two pair of best sheets six of my best napkins and one of my best table cloths.

    All the rest and residue of my goods chattels etc. and all my other personal estate whatsoever to my loving niece Anna Smith (daughter of my brother Ralph Thrale deceased) and wife of Mr. Smith of Kingsbury near St. Albans in the county of Hertford.

    My niece Anna Smith sole executrix.
    Witnesses. Ann Keen. H. Gregory.
    Proved 10 May 1736 by Anna Smith executrix.
    Archd. St. Albans. Reg. 1718-1743. fo.303. - 17 Apr 1732 - Cell Barnes, Saint Peters, St Albans, Hertfordshire, England
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  • Histories
    The Hertfordshire Descent of Henry Thrale
    The Hertfordshire Descent of Henry Thrale
    Major J.H. Busby, M.B.E. Notes and Queries, p.495-498. 13 November 1948.

  • Sources 
    1. [S2] Richard William Thrale, A New Thraliana, (Falconer Press, St Albans.), 66.

    2. [S2] Richard William Thrale, A New Thraliana, (Falconer Press, St Albans.), 87.

    3. [S120] Abstracts and photocopies of wills: Thrale.

    4. [S2] Richard William Thrale, A New Thraliana, (Falconer Press, St Albans.), 77.